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Old 02-24-2012, 05:16 PM
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Does anyone else Not trust their Doctor's at ALL?

So, two days ago, I found myself pissing blood. Being 18 years old, that is not a normal occurrence. It didn't hurt, but still I sought medical attention immediately. So, I go to the doctor's piss in a cup, and the nurse tells me there;s blood in my urine. ****,I already KNEW that. So my doctor comes in and asks me if I felt any pain when doing it, and I said "no". So without actually LOOKING at my urine sample or ANYTHING. He says that the nurse was wrong and that it was a simple issue of too much heavy lifting at work, causing some proteins to break down and show in my piss. Well, that;s fine and all, but shouldn't you, idk CHECK TO MAKE SURE ITS THAT BEFORE MAKING A DIAGNOSIS? Protein and blood are two different things! Its best to know which is which. HE did send the urine to get analyzed, to his credit, but no response yet. He also scheduled me some precautionary blood tests. HOWEVER, last night, at 12:30, I was awoken by hard, sharp pains in the tip of my dick, which have persisted until the post I am making currently. So in my head I'm like, "oh, ok, well I;m going back to the doctor's for a blood test tomorrow, so I'll tell him of this development." I go there get my blood taken, and when I see my doctor, I go up and tell him, and the ******* COMPLETELY FACES ME. He's like, "Sorry, wait till your next visit." Well, here I am, in pain, with no prescribed anything, not knowing what the Hell is wrong with me because you blindly assumed what was wrong with me at our first appointment. MOTHER****ER.
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Old 02-24-2012, 05:32 PM
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Once I pissed blood after a motocross race. I think my kidneys had taken a pounding.
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Old 02-24-2012, 05:36 PM
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I would say if you were having some pain, it would have been a kidney stone. If you have been exerting yourself and or have been hit or anything like that you could piss blood also.
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So, two days ago, I found myself pissing blood. Being 18 years old, that is not a normal occurrence.
Where are you getting that idea from? And are you seeing blood while you urinate or are you seeing drips of it after the stream dies down?
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Old 02-24-2012, 05:51 PM
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My at-home medical care book (and I know that this is anecdotal, but this book is 100% for me in terms of its advice) says:

1) You most likely have a bladder infection if vomiting, back pain, or body-shaking chills are not also present. (If these are present the book says "Seek Medical Care Today!")

2) The best home treatment is to "increase fluid intake to the maximum (up to several gallons of fluid in the first 24 hours). . . drink fruit juices [especially] cranberry juice"

3) If there is any other discharge, you may have an STD and need to get screened for those.

If this does not resolve your problem within two days, the book suggests making a doctor appointment. They say that a urinalysis and culture should be performed. If there is any indication that the issue may be in your kidneys, there might be more tests that need to be done.

Now, I know you've already been to the doctor. If you really feel like you are being brushed off, you should maybe get some advice/recommendations on another practice to visit. If you are not vomiting/shaking/having back pain than I'd begin at-home treatment for the bladder infection and work on getting into a doctor's office within the next week.
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Old 02-24-2012, 05:51 PM
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Get a different doctor. This guy sounds like a dick from what you are saying.
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I'm no MD, kinda does sound like a kidney stone though. But I'm not sure if you would piss blood if it was a stone. On second thoughts, maybe you should get another dr's opinion. Especially if you are that worried about it, ****, don't get me wrong, I would kinda freak too.

Go get another dr's opinion, doesn't sound life threatning.

I was in the military and I love their dr's. They treat you with respect and will go above and beyond for thier patients.
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2) The best home treatment is to "increase fluid intake to the maximum (up to several gallons of fluid in the first 24 hours). . . drink fruit juices [especially] cranberry juice"
I thought that was a proven recipe to kill your kidneys.
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Where are you getting that idea from? And are you seeing blood while you urinate or are you seeing drips of it after the stream dies down?
My urine as a whole is discolored. I'm REALLY hoping its just a UTI or bladder infection. I've been having some cramp like pains in my back and stomach, but they aren't serious or anything. I attribute them to everyday things. No vomiting or chills, either. But again, my doctor seems to be as apathetic as humanly possible, So for now I'm in limbo until the test comeback, assuming he remembers to call me. -_-
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Honestly...it doesn't sound that serious. Go see another dr tomorrow. If you can't do that for whatever reason just go to the ER.
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I thought that was a proven recipe to kill your kidneys.
You aren't supposed to overdose yourself. But, for example, I've been home for a few hours and I've already had the equivalent of a gallon of water. You aren't binging all at once--the idea is to flush out your system--basically get yourself urinating through the day. If you got up at 8am and had a tall glass of water every 20-30 minutes, you'd probably consume 2-3 gallons before the day was over without ever overloading your system.

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. But again, my doctor seems to be as apathetic as humanly possible
Because you're 18 I have to ask: how many years has this person been your doctor? I found that as I became a teenager, doctors I'd had for a long time sometimes treated me a little more paternally than was necessary. If this doctor still thinks of you as a "kid" he might be less receptive to your concerns.

I would really find yourself another doctor. Feeling like your medical professionals actually care about you and want to keep you informed is a huge deal.
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Old 02-24-2012, 06:52 PM
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Because you're 18 I have to ask: how many years has this person been your doctor? I found that as I became a teenager, doctors I'd had for a long time sometimes treated me a little more paternally than was necessary. If this doctor still thinks of you as a "kid" he might be less receptive to your concerns.

I would really find yourself another doctor. Feeling like your medical professionals actually care about you and want to keep you informed is a huge deal.
This seems like decent advice. I'll see how long he keeps me waiting on the test results. If its more than a day or two, or symptoms worsen, I'm going to the Hospital.
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This seems like decent advice. I'll see how long he keeps me waiting on the test results. If its more than a day or two, or symptoms worsen, I'm going to the Hospital.
Because it won't do you any harm (unless, like I said, you start to experience vomiting or shaking or other symptoms) I would strongly encourage you to pursue home treatment as if you had a bladder infection.

It was a really important turning point for me when I finally accrued 2-3 really good home-care medical books. The one I like best is called Take Care of Yourself by Donald Vickery and James Fries (you can buy used copies off of Amazon for cheap, especially if you're willing to get one edition earlier than the most current version). It literally has flow charts to follow and I find that their advice is incredibly practical and the opposite of fear-mongering.

It will basically say "Do you have these symptoms? Yes? You have a cold. Don't waste your time at the doctor--they will tell you to rest and drink lots of fluid. If you aren't better in 3-4 days, then make an appointment." And, on the flip side, it will explicitly tell you which symptoms require calling 911, going to the ER, scheduling an appointment, etc. I was really glad to have this book around when I suffered a head injury two years ago.

It's not like I don't go to the doctor or anything. But I have a better sense of when to go (do I need to go today for this issue, or can it wait a few days?), what to expect and what questions to ask when I get there, and what to try at home first.
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Have you been taking any protein powders? Whey, Creatine?

Is it dark/blood colored or is it bright red blood?

The pain at the tip sounds like a kidney stone, had one myself at 18 and it hurt just like you said, I drank enough liquids and passed it one night and holy hell did I feel like a new man after that.

I also ended up pissing dark/blood colored urine when I was 18 but it ended up being the work of a Creatine/Protein powder I was taking. I stopped taking it and viola, urine back to normal color.


Also, never drink more than 3 gallons of liquids in a single day, and if you do drink a large amount, keep track! And for gods sake, slowly get up to that level if necessary. Don't just decide to drink a massive amount of liquids to try and flush something, you can die from that. There were only a few times in my life where I drank roughly 3 gallons per day and that was Basic Training in Georgia in August/September, and Iraq.
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Have you been taking any protein powders? Whey, Creatine?

Is it dark/blood colored or is it bright red blood?

The pain at the tip sounds like a kidney stone, had one myself at 18 and it hurt just like you said, I drank enough liquids and passed it one night and holy hell did I feel like a new man after that.
Its Dark Colored. I find it immensely interesting you guys are giving me MORE perspective than my Doctor, which makes me trust him even less. He DID tell me that if it was a Kidney Stone, I'd have terrible back pains, which I do not have as of yet.
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I don't go to doctors anymore. I medicate and diagnose myself. Don't trust any doctor, period. Research online or read books about alternative treatments, take a more natural holistic approach, look into vitamins, herbs and changing your diet to a plant based one.
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Old 02-24-2012, 10:09 PM
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I don't go to doctors anymore. I medicate and diagnose myself. Don't trust any doctor, period. Research online or read books about alternative treatments, take a more natural holistic approach, look into vitamins, herbs and changing your diet to a plant based one.
What do you do if you like...get Cancer, or need Surgery, or need a Prescription? Sure self remedying a cold is one thing, but not pulled hamstring...
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I don't trust doctors, period. If my tribe's shaman can't cure it, clearly the gods have a higher purpose for me.
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I don't go to doctors anymore. I medicate and diagnose myself. Don't trust any doctor, period. Research online or read books about alternative treatments, take a more natural holistic approach, look into vitamins, herbs and changing your diet to a plant based one.
You eat plants!
What'd they ever do to you?
You should starve to death and leave Mother Earths defenseless shrubbery alone.
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Just playing devil's advocate here, but a lot of private practice doctors are just overworked. The entire medical system is screwed, in my area of southern California most doctors aren't even taking patients anymore, they're completely overloaded.

With lawsuits making their insurance impossible to afford and the way insurance limits the doctors in your 'network', it's a wonder any doctor chooses the stress of private practice over a specialization and a nice cushy hospital job. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with your doctor, no one should have that. But when you have 20 more people to see in the next hour who may have more serious conditions, sometimes they treat it like a conveyor service.
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If you think it's serious you should ALWAYS get more than one doctors opinion. They don't know everything, even though they think they do.
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Just playing devil's advocate here, but a lot of private practice doctors are just overworked. The entire medical system is screwed, in my area of southern California most doctors aren't even taking patients anymore, they're completely overloaded.

With lawsuits making their insurance impossible to afford and the way insurance limits the doctors in your 'network', it's a wonder any doctor chooses the stress of private practice over a specialization and a nice cushy hospital job. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with your doctor, no one should have that. But when you have 20 more people to see in the next hour who may have more serious conditions, sometimes they treat it like a conveyor service.
If they treat it like a conveyor belt, and aren't thorough with their patients, to the point of not checking whether its blood in your urine or not, doesn't that open the door to lawsuits?
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.I've only had a couple of genuinely helpful doctors. Far too many of them treat(ed) me like an idiot, and didn't want to hear anything I had to say about symptoms.

My girlfriend has had it worse, though. It took 3 years - and several doctors - before we could get anyone to take her intense lower-abdominal pain seriously. Turns out she only had 1 semi-functioning ovary, and the other was a mess of cysts and inflamed non-functional tissue.

Then, a few years after that, she almost died because the hospital in this ****ty little town we're now in didn't do any tests when she went in for extreme stomach and abdominal pain. She was there 13 hours, and no doctor did more than ask her if she'd defecated recently. She hadn't, and also hadn't eaten for 3 days. They just sent her home after laxatives did nothing.

The next day, we ended up rushing her to another city for emergency gall bladder removal surgery. It was about to burst. While they did that, they also realized she was only born with 1 kidney (she was 28 when this occurred).

Most recently, her doctor had been downplaying her symptoms of debilitating fatigue, muscle twitches in her face, chronic confusion, etc. Her insisted it must be a mental condition. Fortunately, her psychiatrist believed otherwise, and referred us to an endocrinologist
that didn't trust any of the blood-work done by our local hospital. The endocrinologist determined that my wife has some auto-immune conditions, most likely Addison's disease, for one.
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.I've only had a couple of genuinely helpful doctors. Far too many of them treat(ed) me like an idiot, and didn't want to hear anything I had to say about symptoms.

My girlfriend has had it worse, though. It took 3 years - and several doctors - before we could get anyone to take her intense lower-abdominal pain seriously. Turns out she only had 1 semi-functioning ovary, and the other was a mess of cysts and inflamed non-functional tissue.

Then, a few years after that, she almost died because the hospital in this ****ty little town we're now in didn't do any tests when she went in for extreme stomach and abdominal pain. She was there 13 hours, and no doctor did more than ask her if she'd defecated recently. She hadn't, and also hadn't eaten for 3 days. They just sent her home after laxatives did nothing.

The next day, we ended up rushing her to another city for emergency gall bladder removal surgery. It was about to burst. While they did that, they also realized she was only born with 1 kidney (she was 28 when this occurred).

Most recently, her doctor had been downplaying her symptoms of debilitating fatigue, muscle twitches in her face, chronic confusion, etc. Her insisted it must be a mental condition. Fortunately, her psychiatrist believed otherwise, and referred us to an endocrinologist
that didn't trust any of the blood-work done by our local hospital. The endocrinologist determined that my wife has some auto-immune conditions, most likely Addison's disease, for one.
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I'd say Takoma has the best advice here. Pretty much the opposite of Euda.

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