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Old 08-12-2012, 09:35 AM
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10/10

A magnificent film that gets too much crap. Yes, the dialogue is the downfall of this film, but the problem is so miniscule in the midst of the spectacular scale of everything else that this is a movie that I truly adore, but understand the slight hate once the 3-D and hype had passed.\

On a side note, yes...I do enjoy this a little more than District 9, which I would give a 9.5/10. I know I'm in the minority in the forum for this one.
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Old 08-12-2012, 09:36 AM
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Latter half of the film, and the whole building trust arc are extremely shoddy.
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Fun on the first watch, not re-watchable.
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Old 08-12-2012, 09:51 AM
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Not impressed 6/10

It really was like watching a FMV from a video game (which ok isn't a bad thing but when you blend real life footage into it then yeesh!!!)

I still think Worthingtons blue dude was played by brendan frazer (anyone else get that vibe?)

Don't get me wrong camerons other stuff is brilliant.. just not this
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Old 08-12-2012, 09:53 AM
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Old 08-12-2012, 09:58 AM
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Given its subject matter, people being repressed and fighting back, its similarities to the magnificent Dances with Wolves, it isn't unreasonable to expect something powerfully moving. I was letdown in that regard. It's not rousing enough. Sully's final speech is pretty much one of the least rousing in existence. As spectacle though, Avatar is pretty great even when its pleasures are more superficial. The armseat gripping thrills of Cameron's other movies are less pronounced here. I will buy this when it comes out in 3D however.

Two and a halve stars.
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But you're crazy if you think that bad dialogue is a "miniscule" problem.

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Maybe a B. I agree it isn't rewatchable, at least for me. Still, it is pretty exciting at times, and has some visually interesting things going on.
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Great film. My favorite of the decade.
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Unique theater experience, but I haven't seen it since, and don't feel compelled to.
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A visually impressive and rousing action film. But it's didactic and simplistic.
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A tremendous visual achievement, both in terms of its new CG environment and its ability to make 3D more than a punchline. Some of the trips up the low-gravity mountains achieve a genuine feeling of vertiginous awe. However, the film's less convincing as compelling drama, and, instead of escaping loose inspirations like Pocahontas and Dances With Wolves, it's stuck with their underlying condescension and racism: the indigenous natives of Pandora can only be saved by the lantern-jawed White Man.

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Undeniably magnificent and grandiose, though it still manages to be generic in many ways.

7/10 seems fair.
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First time viewing in IMAX 3D: Holy****thatwasawesome!!!!11!!!1!! /10

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For all it's visual grandeur and ground-breaking 3D, it feels disappointingly hollow and orchestrated. The fact that it's so cliche is what really kills it for me. How many times can we see a flawed but heroic white hero become the most badass member of the native tribe that initially rejected him? It's a tired premise, and becomes twice as tired because Sam Worthington isn't good or charismatic enough to carry a movie like this whether in human mode or Na'vi mode.

My screenwriting teacher partially dissected the screenplay for us and it was predictable to say the least. What was really interesting is the way the screenplay is precisely divided into acts that conform to classic Hollywood forms. Literally down to the minute. The love scene happens exactly halfway through the movie. Sully's heroic speech happens exactly three-fourths of the way through. Alfred Hitchcock played the audience like a piano. James Cameron plays the audience like a calculator.
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Derivative, but beautiful and essentially enjoyable.

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I saw this when we were in Boston - so it was my first 3D movie since - well forever. Was it 'amazing' yep - but was I sitting there saying over and over again 'seen it before'...'seen it before'...'seen is before'...yes. Beautifully made - but the story was lame, nothing original - so for all that money one would have hoped for a more original story and idea. Every single bit of this film is a rip off of other films. Oh, and worst of all it was totally predicatable in every scene. A film is kind of boring when you can pretict what is about to happen all the way through the movie.

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Visually it's astounding. The theatrical experience was among my best ever. Nobody does prolonged action scenes better than Cameron and he doesn't disappoint here. I wish the story had been a little more original, but he still created a completely new world for the screen. His dialogue has never been his greatest strength, but the story is fine if simple. The biggest difference between this and his Titanic was in the earlier blockbuster he did a better job involving viewers in the main characters and caring about them. But Avatar is still a tremendously entertaining experience. Still my 2nd favorite film from 2009 only behind Inglourious Basterds.
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My screenwriting teacher partially dissected the screenplay for us and it was predictable to say the least. What was really interesting is the way the screenplay is precisely divided into acts that conform to classic Hollywood forms. Literally down to the minute. The love scene happens exactly halfway through the movie. Sully's heroic speech happens exactly three-fourths of the way through. Alfred Hitchcock played the audience like a piano. James Cameron plays the audience like a calculator.
Unrelated, but a similarly fun exercise is Lawrence Gordon's Eleven Minute Commandment, which states that every action movie must have an action sequence every eleven minutes or so. Watch any movie produced by him or Joel Silver, and it's amazing how precisely it times out.
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It was on TV last night. Man with lower resolution and broadcast compression that movie looks damn awful. I was actually shocked because I always held the view that despite being a by the numbers nothing of a film it at least looked pretty. 4/10
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