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Old 09-14-2012, 08:14 AM
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Fellowship of the Ring (2001) is a flawless movie. Flawless.

Granted I am in a post-watch euphoria but I cannot find a single discernible flaw in that movie. Amazing.
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Theatrical Cut is flawed pacing once the SE has been experienced.

I can't think of a flaw, that's not heaping praise for praise sake- just fact.
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I would agree with you.
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:09 AM
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I prefer The Two Towers over Fellowship.
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Devil's advocate: those who are fans of the books might disagree based on what was omitted in the movie. But making an "unfilmable" book into a damn good film was one of the biggest challenges/gambles I've seen.
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Agreed. It's actually my favourite of all three films. By the time of the last one, the CGI was REALLY getting naff - yet that was the one that won best picture.

I think it should have gone to Fellowship of the Ring.
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I'm not a fan of how much they abridged the dread in Moria, nor how they added that arbitrary missing-steps sequence, nor how tinny some of the CG effects look. I'm not a fan of there's never any doubt of the nobility of "Strider." I'm not a fan of the hazy-glowy-shimmery effects of Lothlorien, and I especially don't like how Galadriel's freakout is so damn bombastic and effecty. I don't like how operatic Jackson makes all his emotional moments - scenes like the post-Gandalf breakdown begin as striking and culminate until they cross over into cornball.

Having said all that, it's a damned good movie, and an honorable adaptation.
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I meant Cate Blanchett. Whatever.
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I don't like how operatic Jackson makes all his emotional moments - scenes like the post-Gandalf breakdown begin as striking and culminate until they cross over into cornball.
Other than the f***ed up take on Faramir in 'Towers', this is my biggest beef with the movies. It's like Jackson didn't trust that the moments would resonate on their own- he had to hit you over the head with strings, 'choir of angels' effects and slow-mo.

I can hardly watch the reunion scene in Rivendell at this point. Contrast it to the breaking of the fellowship sequence- much more restrained, and infinitely more moving.
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Other than the f***ed up take on Faramir in 'Towers', this is my biggest beef with the movies. It's like Jackson didn't trust that the moments would resonate on their own- he had to hit you over the head with strings, 'choir of angels' effects and slow-mo..
The scene in ROTK.. when Gandalf rides out to protect the riders who are retreating is a beautiful moment. Jackson made all the right decisions on that one.. and when Gollum finally gets the ring and camera pans back through the ring and overhead.. very emotional impactful moments.
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I watched that on Tuesday. I prefer Two Towers, but...you're right.
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Agreed. It's actually my favourite of all three films. By the time of the last one, the CGI was REALLY getting naff - yet that was the one that won best picture.

Yeah, I prefer Fellowship. Also, the smaller scale lets it focus more on the characters... not so caught up in Giant Epic Battles™.



(And yes - Wacky Galadriel Freakout is a bit odd.)
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Mines of Moria and Borormir's final scenes are some of my favorite things ever.
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The scene in ROTK.. when Gandalf rides out to protect the riders who are retreating is a beautiful moment. Jackson made all the right decisions on that one.. and when Gollum finally gets the ring and camera pans back through the ring and overhead.. very emotional impactful moments.
Yeah- he does get it utterly right at least 50% of the time, which makes the tone-deaf moments all the more bewildering to me.
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The scene in ROTK.. when Gandalf rides out to protect the riders who are retreating is a beautiful moment. Jackson made all the right decisions on that one.. and when Gollum finally gets the ring and camera pans back through the ring and overhead.. very emotional impactful moments.
I really liked that latter moment. Great symbolism with the ring literally encircling Gollum for a brief moment - makes sense, given that it's his entire world.
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Theatrical cut has very little Shire footage. Barrow Wight would have been a welcome addition instead of Aragorn showing up and going "here's your weapons that I found."

Was never big on the orcs dispersing after surrounding the Fellowship ready to wipe them out - too melodramatic.
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(And yes - Wacky Galadriel Freakout is a bit odd.)
What the fuck!!!



That was the best part... it was like scary & sexy all in one
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I really liked that latter moment. Great symbolism with the ring literally encircling Gollum for a brief moment - makes sense, given that it's his entire world.
Totally.

..and the Galadriel freakout was one of the best moments in Fellowship. It's like that scene earlier in the movie.. in the Shire when Gandalf gets all pissed off at Bilbo and is like.."Do not take me for some conjurerer of cheap tricks! I am not trying to rob you!"..
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And pray tell we don't forget everyone jumping in the cinema... well they did in mine

That scared the **** out of me - and even after seeing it a few times now, I DREAD that scene. I close my eyes.
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Here is an obvious flaw:

Give us the halfling, she-elf!

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Here is an obvious flaw:

Give us the halfling, she-elf!

Absolutely terrible line of dialogue that undermines the entire scene.
And really, the entire sequence is wrongheaded because it puts the protagonist in the story in the position of being an inert sack of potatoes. This is compared to the book, or even not compared to the book. You can't reach a dramatic highpoint like this and have your hero doing and being nothing in favor of promoting a second-tier (at best) character.
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I would let this go. But you did use a double flawless.
In the photo Merry and Pippen are dicking around in a tent full of big party stuff with the dragon firework and it lights and sends the tent flying into the air only to reveal all the gravity bound items have vanished around them. That my friend is the black fly in your Chardonay.
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