[Jackal P.I.]

I was trying to think of what would work that wouldn't require a ton of effort on my part, but was something original. Then the idea grabbed me:

Lists.

No. Not like the epic Cinematic Bucket List in my signature, which does get updated occasionally (just completed number 38). But lists of 10 things which we'll try to keep related to movies and TV. Because lists can cause discussion. They can cause controversy. They can prove to be interesting.

First list to appear shortly.

[Death Proof]

ok

[Jackal P.I.]

Before They Were Famous: Top 10 People with Early Appearances in Horror Films

1. Naomi Watts in Children of the Corn: The Gathering (also features Mark Salling from Glee)
2. Paul Rudd in Halloween 6: The Curse of Michael Myers (playing a grown up version of Tommy Doyle, the boy featured in the original Halloween)
3. Tom Hanks in He Knows You're Alone (also featuring the original Audrey from Vacation Dana Barron)
4. Meg Ryan in Amityville 3D (also featuring Lori Loughlin from Full House in an early role)
5. Hillary Swank was in Sometimes They Come Back Again (also featuring Jennifer Elise Cox AKA Jan Brady from the Brady Bunch movies)
6. Dana Carvey in Halloween II as a cameraman (also featuring soap star Billy Warlock)
7. Luke Wilson in Scream 2 (also featuring Marisol Nichols who was Audrey in Vegas Vacation along with Timothy Olyphant and a bunch of others)
8. Michelle Williams in Species (wouldn't be her last horror either. She also was in Killing Mr. Griffin and Halloween H20)
9. Maggie Gyllenhaal in Donnie Darko (also appearing in early roles were Seth Rogen, Ashley Tisdale (Sharpay in the HS Musicals), and Fran Kranz (Cabin in the Woods))
10. John Hawkes in I Still Know What You Did Last Summer (also featuring Jack Black in dreadlocks!)

[Janson Jinnistan]

Thanks for avoiding the addition of the standard Johnny Depp and George Clooney mentions.

[Stryder]

Originally Posted by Jackal P.I.

8. Michelle Williams in Species

Hmm. Interesting.

[Death Proof]

I love Amityville 3D - and Meg Ryan's character totally wanted to bang her friend's dad.

[Matt the Hat]

Are you doing request lists?

[Jackal P.I.]

Top 10 TV Ships:

1. Dave and Maddie-Moonlighting (show nosedived when they consummated...and when Willis and Shepherd stopped getting along)
2. John Steed and Emma Peel-The Avengers
3. Castle and Beckett-Castle
4. Benson and Stabler-Law and Order: SVU
5. Jeff Winger and Annie-Community
6. Charlie and Claire-Lost
7. Xena and Gabrielle-Xena: Warrior Princess
8. Mulder and Scully - The X Files
9. Luke and Lorelai- The Gilmore Girls
10. Leslie and Ben- Parks and Recreation

[Jackal P.I.]

Originally Posted by Janson Jinnistan

Thanks for avoiding the addition of the standard Johnny Depp and George Clooney mentions.

Yeah, I didn't want to pick on horror films that made them famous, which would have excluded Johnny Depp in the original Nightmare. As for Clooney, he starred in Return to Horror High. I was more interested in stars appearing in minor roles before most of us would have recognized them.

[Jackal P.I.]

Originally Posted by Matt the Hat

Are you doing request lists?

I'll consider it.

[Matt the Hat]

Were Xena and Gaby lesbians or just good friends? What about Hercules and his sidekick?

[Matt the Hat]

Originally Posted by Jackal P.I.

I'll consider it.

How about a top ten director's classic debut feature films?

[Rumpled 4 Skin]

No idea who Paul rudd and John Hawkes is?

1. Charlize theron - Children of the Corn III
2. Eva Mendes - Children of the Corn IV
3. Sharon stone - Deadly Blessing
4. Katherine Heigl - Bride of Chucky
5. Julianne Moore - Tales From the Darkside (The Movie)
6. Beverley D'angelo - The Sentinel
7. Samuel L Jackson - The Exorcist III
8. Angela bassett - Critters 4
9. Jason Alexander - The Burning
10. Ben affleck - Buffy the Vampire Slayer (Movie)

[Jackal P.I.]

Originally Posted by Matt the Hat

Were Xena and Gaby lesbians or just good friends? What about Hercules and his sidekick?

The show Xena, which was later on spoofed by You Don't Know Jack as Xenora: Queen of Battle, had Xena and Gabrielle as best friends with boyfriends in the early episodes. But later on, there were times where the two of them kissed, such as helping the other drink from The Fountain of Strength or kissing someone who was caught behind a Wall of Fire. You know, storyline reasons. They even joked with the trope late in an episode called Kindred Spirits where they pretended to be a couple. So to answer your question, Xena and Gaby were good friends but if you read between the lines there's a lot more than that.

As for Hercules and Iolaus, they were two hetero guys. Albeit, guys with their shirts half open all the time.

[Matt the Hat]

Originally Posted by Jackal P.I.

The show Xena, which was later on spoofed by You Don't Know Jack as Xenora: Queen of Battle, had Xena and Gabrielle as best friends with boyfriends in the early episodes. But later on, there were times where the two of them kissed, such as helping the other drink from The Fountain of Strength or kissing someone who was caught behind a Wall of Fire. You know, storyline reasons. They even joked with the trope late in an episode called Kindred Spirits where they pretended to be a couple. So to answer your question, Xena and Gaby were good friends but if you read between the lines there's a lot more than that.

As for Hercules and Iolaus, they were two hetero guys. Albeit, guys with their shirts half open all the time.

The episode that always sticks in my mind is when Xena enters a beauty contest and nearly wins it only to drop out at the last minute. A few other women drop out and a transvestite ends up winning the compitition!

[Jackal P.I.]

Originally Posted by Rumpled 4 Skin

No idea who Paul rudd and John Hawkes is?

1. Charlize theron - Children of the Corn III
2. Eva Mendes - Children of the Corn IV
3. Sharon stone - Deadly Blessing
4. Katherine Heigl - Bride of Chucky
5. Julianne Moore - Tales From the Darkside (The Movie)
6. Beverley D'angelo - The Sentinel
7. Samuel L Jackson - The Exorcist III
8. Angela bassett - Critters 4
9. Jason Alexander - The Burning
10. Ben affleck - Buffy the Vampire Slayer (Movie)

John Hawkes played Teardrop, the guy in Winter's Bone who helped Ree find out what happened to her daddy. Paul Rudd? 40 Year Old Virgin, Knocked Up, Role Models, Dinner for Schmucks, Anchorman (any of those ring a bell?)

Good list, by the way.

[Jackal P.I.]

Originally Posted by Matt the Hat

How about a top ten director's classic debut feature films?

Getting Your Career Off to a Flying Start: Top 10 Director's Classic Debut Films:

1. Blood Simple -Coen Brothers (96% Fresh)
2. Eraserhead - David Lynch (90% Fresh)
3. Boys Don't Cry - Kimberly Peirce (88% Fresh)
4. Hell's Angels - Howard Hughes (90% Fresh...also in Kubrick's top 10)
5. Play Misty for Me - Clint Eastwood (83% Fresh)
6. Billy Elliot - Stephen Daldry (85% Fresh)
7. Reservoir Dogs - Quentin Tarantino (96% Fresh)
8. Knife in the Water - Roman Polanski (100% Fresh)
9. Pee Wee's Big Adventure - Tim Burton (92% Fresh)
10. Hard 8 - Paul Thomas Anderson (82% Fresh)

I concentrated on their first feature films ignoring shorts...also Sofia Coppola (Virgin Suicides) and Christopher Nolan (Following) both ended up at 76 percent.

[Matt the Hat]

I haven't seen Hughes or Lynch's debuts. I'd have the likes of John Huston (The Maltese Falcon), Charles Laughton (Night of the Hunter) and of course Orson Welles (Citizen Kane).

[Lillyvon]

Originally Posted by Rumpled 4 Skin

No idea who Paul rudd and John Hawkes is?

(Movie)

[Jackal P.I.]

Top Ten Cliches I'd like to see end:

1. The rote characterizations of people in horror movies.
2. The fallacy of the perfect day.
3. Electronic equipment (phones/cars/etc) stop working in a horror movie.
4. The final girl must be virginal
5. A woman must change in order to get a man and do good at work, especially when he's a neanderthal.
6. All people playing computer/video/D and D games are geeks.
7. The big final speech where the hero tells us what he/she learned along the journey.
8. The person who has so many days to retirement/wedding/etc. never lives long enough to see them.
9. The miraculous second half comeback in the final game...just doesn't happen that often folks.
10. The star who has to show humility before they can get the respect of their family just before the big show to save the city/community center/etc.

[billtheburger]

Originally Posted by Jackal P.I.

Before They Were Famous: Top 10 People with Early Appearances in Horror Films

John Goodman - CHUD - cop in diner,

[billtheburger]

Originally Posted by Jackal P.I.

Top Ten Cliches I'd like to see end:

English are baddies.

[Thief12]

Originally Posted by Jackal P.I.

Before They Were Famous: Top 10 People with Early Appearances in Horror Films

1. Naomi Watts in Children of the Corn: The Gathering (also features Mark Salling from Glee)
2. Paul Rudd in Halloween 6: The Curse of Michael Myers (playing a grown up version of Tommy Doyle, the boy featured in the original Halloween)
3. Tom Hanks in He Knows You're Alone (also featuring the original Audrey from Vacation Dana Barron)
4. Meg Ryan in Amityville 3D (also featuring Lori Loughlin from Full House in an early role)
5. Hillary Swank was in Sometimes They Come Back Again (also featuring Jennifer Elise Cox AKA Jan Brady from the Brady Bunch movies)
6. Dana Carvey in Halloween II as a cameraman (also featuring soap star Billy Warlock)
7. Luke Wilson in Scream 2 (also featuring Marisol Nichols who was Audrey in Vegas Vacation along with Timothy Olyphant and a bunch of others)
8. Michelle Williams in Species (wouldn't be her last horror either. She also was in Killing Mr. Griffin and Halloween H20)
9. Maggie Gyllenhaal in Donnie Darko (also appearing in early roles were Seth Rogen, Ashley Tisdale (Sharpay in the HS Musicals), and Fran Kranz (Cabin in the Woods))
10. John Hawkes in I Still Know What You Did Last Summer (also featuring Jack Black in dreadlocks!)

Originally Posted by Rumpled 4 Skin

No idea who Paul rudd and John Hawkes is?

1. Charlize theron - Children of the Corn III
2. Eva Mendes - Children of the Corn IV
3. Sharon stone - Deadly Blessing
4. Katherine Heigl - Bride of Chucky
5. Julianne Moore - Tales From the Darkside (The Movie)
6. Beverley D'angelo - The Sentinel
7. Samuel L Jackson - The Exorcist III
8. Angela bassett - Critters 4
9. Jason Alexander - The Burning
10. Ben affleck - Buffy the Vampire Slayer (Movie)

1. Leonardo DiCaprio - Critters 3
2. Clint Eastwood - Revenge of the Creature
3. Johnny Depp - Nightmare on Elm Street
4. George Clooney - Return to Horror High
5. Viggo Mortensen - Leatherface: Texas Chainsaw Massacre III
6. Kevin Bacon - Friday the 13th
7. Jennifer Aniston - Leprechaun
8. Demi Moore - Parasite
9. Laurence Fishburne - Nightmare on Elm Street 3
10. Ted Danson - Creepshow

[Rumpled 4 Skin]

Originally Posted by Janson Jinnistan

Thanks for avoiding the addition of the standard Johnny Depp and George Clooney mentions.

Originally Posted by Thief12

1. Leonardo DiCaprio - Critters 3
2. Clint Eastwood - Revenge of the Creature
3. Johnny Depp - Nightmare on Elm Street
4. George Clooney - Return to Horror High
5. Viggo Mortensen - Leatherface: Texas Chainsaw Massacre III
6. Kevin Bacon - Friday the 13th
7. Jennifer Aniston - Leprechaun
8. Demi Moore - Parasite
9. Laurence Fishburne - Nightmare on Elm Street 3
10. Ted Danson - Creepshow

oops

[Thief12]

Originally Posted by Rumpled 4 Skin

oops

I always thought that Depp and Bacon were always the standard ones

Anyway, replace them with...

3. Gerard Butler - Tale of the Mummy
4. Jennifer Connelly - Creepers


We could be at it all night

[doughboy]

Cool thread.

[Jackal P.I.]

Inspired by DAMU: My top 15 Stephen King adaptions

1. The Shawshank Redemption (perfect)
2. Stand By Me
3. The Mist
4. Misery
5. The Shining
6. The Stand
7. Dolores Claiborne
8. Storm of the Century
9. Creepshow
10. Carrie
11. The Green Mile
12. Cat'e Eye
13. Apt Pupil
14. The Running Man
15. The Golden Years

[Jackal P.I.]

Inspired by Wooley: Top 10 Horror Comedies

1. Shaun of the Dead
2. Night of the Creeps
3. Cemetery Man
4. Zombieland
5. Gremlins 2: The New Batch
6. House
7. Return of the Living Dead
8. Santa's Slay
9. Dance of the Dead
10. Student Bodies

[doughboy]

Originally Posted by Jackal P.I.

Inspired by Wooley: Top 10 Horror Comedies

1. Shaun of the Dead
2. Night of the Creeps
3. Cemetery Man
4. Zombieland
5. Gremlins 2: The New Batch
6. House
7. Return of the Living Dead
8. Santa's Slay
9. Dance of the Dead
10. Student Bodies

This list has a disturbing lack of Young Frankenstein.

[doughboy]

Originally Posted by Jackal P.I.

Inspired by DAMU: My top 15 Stephen King adaptions

1. The Shawshank Redemption (perfect)
2. Stand By Me
3. The Mist
4. Misery
5. The Shining
6. The Stand
7. Dolores Claiborne
8. Storm of the Century
9. Creepshow
10. Carrie
11. The Green Mile
12. Cat'e Eye
13. Apt Pupil
14. The Running Man
15. The Golden Years

This list has a disturbing lack of IT.