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Ever since he sashayed his way to receive his first honour at Filmfare awards we all knew this man cannot be straight. His subsequent interviews and appearances confirmed that he is worthy of succeeding RuPaul. Then came his ultimate triumph – the bitchfest called ‘Coffee with Karan’ . The elaborate costumes, the cross-legged diagonal posture with one hand coiled around his cheek and the other drooping holding the cue cards. The hysterical laugh, the bitching marathon and brooding over a worthless coffee hamper – he just unofficially came out of the closet. Our own magnificent diva. He just needed a well-manicured chihuahua with a diamond collar named Coco by his side to complete him.
He is famous for his pop-corn films with his long-term ‘companion’ Shahrukh Khan who wears Polo & Armani and hams through out as if he is being paid to endorse them! Silly dance sequences, uninspired stories and long drawn poignant scenes which induce tears just because you are tearing your hair out of your scalp and screaming ‘get a life, you losers’! Now he comes with another ‘inspired story’ about infidelity. Inspired from the Jude Law, Julia Roberts movie ‘Closer’ . Do watch at your own risk. Karan is trying to be serious here and promoting the film as a ‘serious, adult film’. Our girl is growing up! Sigh! I hope that one day he directs a gay-themed film and start supporting his community. We in India need gay directors like him who make sensible films portraying us as human beings rather than comical buffoons who are either perverts or just funny extras. And in his recent interview he just proclaimed that he is never getting married (tell us something we don’t know) because he doesn't believe in the institution of marriage. Nice excuse.... trying being original unlike most his films are! |
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Well ! ...
I dont get it, is your post for Karan Johar or for Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna. What about the movie is it good or Bad ? And your post is not funny as your post Icon Suggests. But nice try. Njoy... Quote:
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Its is a LONG - I mean a LONG film. Its over-the-top emotions, everyone cries and so did the audience in despair! Amitabh was phenomenal - gave few genuine laughs. Many Indian friends thought it was crude and rude humour. But in London audience laughed at his lines. But the goras were pretty much laughing at everything - even in the end when Rani was running to catch SRK who was apparently leaving for Canada. One American sitting next to me gasped 'Its just an hour train ride to Canada - take the next train. Why is she running like crazy as if he is leaving for Iraq'. Preity was wasted but did her part well - some tour de force moments. Rani needed an umbrella badly (she gets wet unnecessarily) and needed to be told usually women remove their heavy makeup before going to sleep! She requires a new make-up artist. She looks much better without pancakes. Abhisekh was brilliant as a husband whose love is not reciprocated and Arjun Rampal was there too in miss-if-you-blink types! Songs were loud - typical Karan Johar style - lavish, change-million-costumes running around in slow motion [Farah Khan choreography - she needs to grow out of 'Phela Nasha' mode]. Karan was trying to deal the issue of 'What if you meet your soul-mate after your marriage?' or I would simply say - 'I want to have sex with someone else'. Half baked reasons [low sex drive & failed ambitions] do not make you cheat on your spouse in real-life. Ijazaat, Arth and Silsila have deat with extra-marital affairs much better. Only Karan can make a mother of 'Chicken Little' dance to Bhangra in a night club and she is supposedly a senior director with a glossy. If it was an English film - it would have been divorce and marry someone else - over in 10 minutes but Karan made us sit through for three hours in a song-dance [including bhangra], tear-marathon and some passionate hugs [true Indian women cannot French kiss on screen]. The passion between SRK and Rani is conveyed in really intense hugging and neck rubbing and was hilarious. And what does a 34 year old single gay man know about marriage and its flaws. He just saw 'Closer', 'Before Sunset' and plethora of other Hollywood films on infidelity and made his own 'designer, bhangra & glycerine version' The most annoying character was SRK - by far the most ugliest man on Indian soil [If I discount Johnny Lever]. He reached the peak with his over acting and hamming! He is anyway irritating and annoying and the character he was playing was supposed to be that too - Imagine! It was Annoying and Irritating x 2. Well he gets slapped by Zinta - that was poetic justice! It was silly, crap and frivolous. But it will make tons of money. Audience love his kitch and rona-dhona. In earlier films he was busy promoting Polo and Armani - in this one it is Louis Vuitton. It is a three-and-a-half hour long, over-blown, candy-floss fantasy about the lives of the ultra rich and good looking Indians, who wear expensive clothes, live in beautifully furnished, stunning apartments and mansions, dance in crazy discotheques, walk in snow and rain, and cry a lot and drink Starbucks coffee. I would probably give it a 1/5 [mainly due to Amitabh - the audience really laughed at his lines and some decent cinematography + the 'Mitwa' song. New York appeared endearing] Karan go on a long extended holiday and take your time in celebrating and spending the money you will earn with this crap. We also need some time to recuperate. Just when I thought Indian cinema is evolving with 'Black', 'Page 3', 'Rang De Basanti' and 'Omkara' - we take three steps back with KANK. |
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So... you definitely do not like Karan Johar and you hate Shahrukh Khan... My brilliant conclusion is that you are not a female.
I used to dislike Indian movies, but after Devdas I can watch most of them without falling asleep. And I like Shahrukh a lot. You are right that he is ugly, but his charm is overwhelming. Yes. I am a girl. I will tell you about KANK after I will see it, but it could be many months from now. Can you wait that long? ![]()
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Karan is gay
I think you have given a very apt description of Karan and i really think he should get out of the closet first and get together with Manish ( both of them need to get out of the closet) and then produce a gay movie - it would be good.
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So, what if he is gay?
What's up with you guys? |
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He just needs to start making some sensible cinema. He is obviously gay - He supported 'My Brother Nikhil', gay references in KHNH [Kanta Bai scene] and now KANK and c'mon no straight man can walk, talk, laugh, sit or breathe like him. In his last interview - he disregarded the institution of marriage and claims will never get married. He has never been romantically involved with any of his heroines - unlike most Indian directors. And the only person he has been ever linked is SRK [whose sexuality is a topic of another debate]. He should just come out and make a decent, sane, rational and level-headed film. No point in running slow motion, making everyone in his film cry unnecessarily, dancing on bhangra music in weird discotheques and wearing branded clothes in the name of art. Sure audience laps it up like a drugged puppy and he makes tons of money. With his clout and his close bonds with top actors - he has the power to make a difference. Well I guess with time and when India relaxes its stand on homosexuality being illegal - our Karan will come out officially from the closet and make a film which will say something meaningful. We will be waiting KJ! |
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the problem you mention is not his films but the fact that it clearly isn't your cup of tea. many thousands of people watch his films & are pretty chuffed, the box office reports show that.
its aimed at that specific audience, if you don't fall under that category, don't watch his films instead of bitching that you don't like them. if you think you can do better go make your own films. its a fine line between producing great films & films that will be accepted, so your digs at his films should really be aimed at the audience that openly begs for a change & then gets pissy when they get one. if you tried to make a film you'd see this clearer. having said this i can see what you mean in that it is a typical chick flick which is long & could have done with some trimming .. but as for the infidelity .. its a slow gradual move that the indian audience is seeing, for thats the way they can handle it, history shows this: films like mera naam joker, lamhe didn't work at the box office, yet are appreciated a lot later. he was actually inspired by ethan hawke & julie delpy starrer: 'before sunset' he said that himself, now if you were to say Abhishek seemed a little inspired by Clive Owen's performance in Closer in a 2 or 3 scenes that I could see, as for character similarities - none really. The issue was not: 'What if you meet your soul-mate after your marriage?' The issue was "The foundation of a marriage should be an unconditional love for your partner & nothing else, for if the foundation is flawed then relationships break" .. which in fairness is a necessary one especially with so many asians marrying young merely due to pressures from parents ... as for your repeated gay-bashing comments, pointless & irrelevant. my 2 cents, peace out _ram-jaane' |
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Yes, we beg for different and 'hatke films' and we get 'Black', 'Page 3', 'Rang De' and 'Omkara' - We did not ask for unnecessary crying on screen and making a fun of our intelligence by running slowly on a railway platform looking for someone leaving for Canada from New York!!. And giving us presposterous reasons for breaking up a marriage. If such reasons apply in real life then no marriage would work in this world. Thousands people do watch his films. Agreed. And it gives him the audacity to make more trashy films and insult our intelligence further. Yes if I was sleeping with SRK and had Yash Johar as my father - I would have made a better film. As for gay bashing. He is gay and he should come out rather than blasting the institution of marriage. And no way he is equipped to handle marriage which happens between a man and a woman. He has money and serious ties with senior actors and is in a position to make better cinema. But fools like you watch and promote his films - so he keeps on churning this brain-numbing trash. He has taken a lot from a lot of Hollywood films. As for the characters - none of the Hollywood's 'sane' characters would behave like SRK or Rani for that matter!! If Hollywood makes a sensitive, serious film - they make it that way. If it is a musical - they make it that way. Combining a sensitve issue like extra-marital affair with bhangra - c'mon! As for me watching his film - Yes! I am guilty as charged. Living in London and missing good Indian cinema blindly took me to the theatre. Took along some white friends after speaking so highly of our cinema. But could not help but sink in my seat to watch everyone laugh at the entire film. Well one suggested it as a script for Scary Movie 5. Embarassing ! You obviously are fighting some demons in your brain. Get Well Soon! |
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Micks: i'm not replying to you followed by some immature reply *bravo*
Kokonut393: "And giving us presposterous reasons for breaking up a marriage. If such reasons apply in real life then no marriage would work in this world." uhuh - & marriages 'do' work these days?? .... 'riiiiite' no wonder you're still stuck on 80's films like arth & ijazat talking of the 21st century 2 snippets of your own words: "quite an old subject. And we live in the 21st century. You are not dealing with a sensitive subject here but making a mockery of it" "Combining a sensitve issue like extra-marital affair with bhangra - c'mon!" make your mind up .. u tell me i'm confused' maybe i am, in fact i'm probably insane, many say so .. but it least i've past puberty ... |
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make your mind up .. u tell me i'm confused'
maybe i am, in fact i'm probably insane, many say so .. but it least i've past puberty ...[/QUOTE] As long was we agree on your insanity - I am fine with that. You are mental. Arguing with you is like arguing with a chained crazy person locked in a mental asylum. You are beyond help. If life gets too tough on you - just pick up the blade and slit your wrists. We will all shed a tear for you. Lost cause! |
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In Internet terminology, a troll is someone who comes into an established community such as an online discussion forum, and posts inflammatory, rude, repetitive or offensive messages designed intentionally to annoy or antagonize the existing members or disrupt the flow of discussion, including the personal attack of calling others trolls.
to feed the troll or not to feed the troll? not to feed the troll. Though you started this thread, I will admit to being guilty of feeding you a little. I think I will go & slit my wrists now as suggested as you guys have truly got me on my knees & in tears. Apologies for giving you a further appetite & Adios. |
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What?
Why does it matter if he's gay or not? Who cares? There are lots of gay people out in movies, and saying they should only do "gay" movies is stupid and illogical. I guess people who are 34 years old should only do movies about 34 year olds, and people with red hair should only do movies about redheads. People are allowed to do commentaries on whatever they want, and sometimes being an outsider gives you a better view of what you're talking about.
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And no one said he should 'only' do gay films - If you read correctly its mentioned 'I hope that one day he directs a gay-themed film and start supporting his community'. Is that clearer now? He should come out of his comfort zone of Bhangra, glycerine, garish makeup, designer clothes, slow-motion melodrama and over-the-top characters and make some sensible cinema - gay or straight! If you believe his 'take' on marriage/infidelity is a better view in KANK then seriously you need to start watching some better cinema. |
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everybody need not become an art director..... countless people like his type of cinema, his track record is unsurpassed according to box office figures go.
his type is escapist cinema. we all know many of these things don't happen in real life. but that is why it is films. every movie does not need to be ultra realisitic. Sometimes you are so fed up with life, that you need this kind of escapist cinema. and as far as being gay... well its not our concern really. whether he is gay or not, he is one good filmmaker... and that is what we should be concerned with anyways..... |
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No,I don't think so but even if he is why do you care and why others should care? It's his life and sexuality.
Amit P Indian Gay Social Networking Site http://www.desiboys.in
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